BEYOND THE GRID: Laura Mueller and Esteban Ocon on their race engineer-driver dynamic at Haas
Haas driver Esteban Ocon and race engineer Laura Mueller are the guests on this week’s Beyond The Grid podcast.

2025 has been a year of firsts for Laura Mueller and Esteban Ocon. It’s Laura’s first season as a race engineer, Esteban’s first season with Haas, and it’s their first time working with each other.
So, how are they finding it? What do they need from one another to get the best out of each other? And how do they communicate in and out of the car?
Speaking to Beyond The Grid host Tom Clarkson, Laura and Esteban take us inside their first year working together and how the relationship between a race engineer and an F1 driver works.
They provide fascinating insight into how they talk to each other on team radio – explaining when the right time to speak during a lap is, how often they should speak and why that can change in different scenarios.
Laura and Esteban also reflect on the highs and lows of this year – including how they bounced back from a challenging season-opener in Melbourne to score points in China the week after.
And you’ll hear all about Laura’s path to becoming F1’s first female race engineer and the childhood hero who inspired this journey.
To listen to this week’s episode, simply hit go on the audio player above or click here to listen via your preferred podcasting platform.
You can also check out a huge selection of previous episodes – spanning every decade of F1 – in our dedicated Beyond The Grid library here.

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